Friday, November 18, 2005

Partisanship end at the coasts

At least, I've heard it used to be that way. Former CIA director Stansfield Turner smears Bush in Briton. And in other news former President Bill Clinton blasts war while speaking in Dubai. What, exactly, are they hoping to accomplish?

4 Comments:

Blogger Carl Nyberg said...

What does any criticism of the war seek to accomplish?

Look, the Bush team broke all sorts of rules in getting their war. Among other things they flat out lied. They attempted to destroy the reputation of individuals that criticize the war.

And you want war critics to play by some rules about politeness. Why should they? So the Bush team won't trump up flimsy ethics charges against John Murtha?

12:39  
Blogger Roy said...

Without responding to your vague tin-foil hat conspiracy theories, I will address the first question you posed. Any person has a right to criticize the war, but with that right comes the responsibility to respect the way we make decisions in this country. Running away from debate and slandering people in countries across the globe crosses the line vis a vis government decision making procedures.

18:19  
Blogger Carl Nyberg said...

but with that right comes the responsibility to respect the way we make decisions in this country.

What does this mean?

What difference does it make who owns the dirt the critics stands upon? It seems this is an attempt to change the subject from addressing the substance of the criticism.

"Slander"? What have war critics said that is slanderous? Did you object to war proponents attacking the courage, patriotism and morality of war critics? Or is slander a one-way street?

Running away from debate? When have Bush, Cheney, Rice or Rumsfeld made themselves available to debate the Iraq War with someone opposed to it?

21:23  
Blogger Roy said...

Running away from debate? When have Bush, Cheney, Rice or Rumsfeld made themselves available to debate the Iraq War with someone opposed to it? Ever heard of the 2004 election? Duh.

but with that right comes the responsibility to respect the way we make decisions in this country.

What does this mean?
We live in a representative republic where people vote in officers to advocate for them. The process involves face to face debate and a free press. duh.

"Slander"? What have war critics said that is slanderous? Did you object to war proponents attacking the courage, patriotism and morality of war critics? Or is slander a one-way street? To say Bush lied is slander. It is also pathetic to say that Bush lied, and then when you are asked if you really mean it (see Kerry 2004) back away from the comment. You think he lied? Then impeach him. We all know that you don't even believe what you say and that you want this battle fought in the mud-slinging arena of op-ed pages. Who cares about the facts when poll numbers are at stake?

Speaking of cowardice, why go across the globe to sound off? I can't think of any reason other than the comfort of knowing your audience hasn't seen both sides of the issue.

14:43  

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